[Abbenay] When are you available?

[Hedvig Skirgård]

Okay here we go again.

The last thread about when to meet about important things got mixed up with
other stuff and i didn't get as many answers as I wanted.

Please answer only with your choice of date and time, just copy paste it in.

19 oct after 13
20 oct before 17
21 oct afternoon/evening
22 oct afternoon/evening
23 oct afternoon/evening
24 oct
25 oct

So far the time most people have preferred is 21 oct afternoon/evening and
23.
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Here is the original post about what the meeting is about:

Tagline: Taking things for granted is not good - let's talk

Hello.all members of the Abbenay Hackspace emaillist.

This is an important message about what Abbenay is and how we are
organised. If you are a member of Abbenay please read this and attend
the summit (AFK or at IRC).

Certain issues has come up that we need to talk about all together as
a group. Therefore I, as the current administrator, would like to call
for a grand meeting/summit (*stormöte*). In our bylaws (that are being
translated into English very soon) it is stated that we need to notify
all members at least two weeks in advance. Here is a draft by myself,
Sebastian Liem and Google Translate.
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dsst9bb_29386ckgbft . Those of you who
know English and Swedish are very welcome to help.

Facts:

This organsation has bylaws which unfurtunately hasn't been translated
into english yet.

We state in our bylaws that the only goal for this organisation is to
provide a location and tools for it's members. We have made no
political statements as a group. This association consists of
individuals who use the space the association provides for them. These
individuals do not represent Abbenay as a whole unless Abbenay as a
whole has decided this.

In our bylaws we state that members are those willing to be members
and also accept the bylaws.

Something I think that we can agree on is that this is an
anarchisticly organised organisation. Having said this I think the
previous statement is extremely problematic that this isn't something
we have discussed at all. Our bylaws state that we are not bound to
any political party, other than that there is no evidence, no decision
that we are in fact a an anarchisticly organised organisation. This is
something I guess we have taken for granted since most active members
are anarchists or have anarchistic tendencies.

Taking things for granted is not good. And not having told new members
of the emaillist about our bylaws or the anarchism is not good either.

The issues we have to discuss are these:

We must decide on a form for how we make decisions as a group. Do we
even want to make statements as a group? Is a decision taken when
nobody objects? What happens when someone does object? In our bylaws
it says that "big decisions" are taken on summits and with simple
majority vote, what are big decisions?

Do we need to agree on some kind of policy about what is okay and what is
not?

I like to do stuff.
I have not disagreed with anything discussed on this list so far.
But we need to be crystal clear, there can be no misconceptions!

Please write dates that suit you here, CLEARLY mind you.

I suggest that while we can have a discussion here on the list about
the the above issues we should leave the main discussion for the
summit and not let it take up all time for the workshop on saturday.

Sayonara,
Admin Hed.